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I’ve noted in many previous Canon RF mount reviews that the new RF mount seems to have really unlocked a new wave of creativity from Canon. Historically Canon has been a very conservative company that could be relied on to provide solid support of very good products but with significant innovation being fairly rare. They certainly have NOT been an offbeat company that make quirky products. But, as noted, Canon has taken a few more chances on the RF mount front, and none so daring (and quirky) as the development of the Canon RF 600mm F11 IS STM and Canon RF 800mm F11 IS STM telephoto primes. Canon is no stranger to developing long telephoto primes, but none of them have been anything like these lenses. A lens with a maximum aperture of F11 would have been unthinkable on DSLRs, as such a lens wouldn’t have even autofocused on most all cameras. Mirrorless cameras have a little more tolerance for small apertures, though we will see that there are still some real world issues with physics that cannot be avoided.

The quirkiness begins when you attach either the RF800 (as we’ll call it for brevity) or the RF 600mm to your camera. On the screen comes a simple message against a black background: “Set the lens to the shooting position”. You cannot use the lens until you rotate a locking ring near the lens mount to the “unlocked” position and then move the rest of the lens forward about 7.5cm. This means that the optical path for proper focus can’t be achieved by the lens in the retracted position.

The end result is rather odd lens profile where a slender inner barrel is extended at the back rather than the front of the lens.

But things get stranger still. This is an F11 lens. That in itself is weird, though we’ve established the Canon’s EOS R mirrorless cameras (like the EOS R5 that I used for this review) can autofocus at F11. But this is not a lens with an aperture range from F11 to, say, F22. This is an F11 lens. Period. There is no aperture iris. You can’t change the aperture, so every shot taken with either the RF 600mm F11 or RF 800mm F11 will be at F11. I’ve never tested an interchangeable lens where you couldn’t change the aperture until now. This shot is taken at F11, just like every other shot shown in the review or image gallery!

There’s more unique observations to come, but that’s sufficient to demonstrate that these two lenses are unlike any other Canon lenses save each other.

So why?

Though these lenses are not necessarily my own personal “cup of tea”, I do appreciate what Canon is trying to accomplish here. The RF600 retails for $699 USD, while the RF800 retails for $899 USD. These are undoubtedly the cheapest ways to achieve either of these focal lengths on the Canon RF system. They are also reasonably compact and lightweight, which in its own way makes them accessible. Most photographers would never be able to own a 600mm F4, for example, as Canon’s RF 600mm F4L IS USM retails for – gulp! – $12,999 USD, and Canon doesn’t yet have any RF lens that natively reaches 800mm. The Canon EF 800mm F5.6 also retails for $12,999 USD, so you could buy nearly 15 of the RF800 lenses for that price! This is a chance for photographers to get long reach at a reasonable price on their new Canon mirrorless camera – so long as they are willing to accept a few compromises. We’ll explore those compromises in this review while also keeping in mind that this is a utterly unique lens that reaches 800mm of reach at a price tag under $1000.

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Thanks to Camera Canada for getting me loanerd of these lenses. They are my personal source for my gear and have been great to work with. As always, this is a completely independent review. *The tests and the photos shown in this review have been taken on my 45 MP Canon EOS R5.

RF800 Build, Handling, and Features

As noted in the introduction, this is a very unique kind of lens. The RF800 is not a particularly conventional looking lens, and even less so than the 600mm. The visual standout is a unique textured pattern on the front portion of the lens. This is a little less notable on the 600mm, as the two lenses are basically identical through the silver control ring. At that point the 800mm has a much longer “snout” to accommodate the greater optics needed to achieve the longer reach of the lens (the 800mm is about 90mm longer). What makes this section unique is the rubberized texture that looks more like it belongs on the grip of a camera than on a lens. In some ways I am reminded of the finish on binoculars.

The RF800 is 101.6mm in diameter (giving us a 95mm filter thread) and nearly 352mm in length, though interestingly this figure is actually in the extended shooting position, not the retracted position. Most zoom lenses are measured in their retracted position, but it does stand to reason that the longer measurement is given here, as the lens is actually not functional it its retracted position. In the retracted position the lens measures at roughly 290mm, making it short enough to fit into many camera bags, though whether it can be attached to a camera or not will depend on the backpack. The weight is 1260g, which is moderate enough that most people can manage it. For a little perspective, the EF 800mm lens that I referenced earlier weighs in at about 4.5 kilos, or slightly more than 3.5 times heavier. There is no lighter way that I’m aware of getting this amount of reach.

There is a fairly standard bank of switches on the left side of the lens. The top is a two-position focus limiter, with only full and 12m-∞ as options. The middle switch is an AF/MF switch. The bottom switch is a simple On/OFF for the Image Stabilizer (the IS in the name of the lens). The budget origins of the lens are shown in the focus limiter having only two positions and in having no different modes for the IS.

The focus limiter discussion raises an interesting discussion, as this is definitely not like some telephoto lenses that double as pseudo-macro lenses. Minimum focus distance is 6m (nearly 20 feet), and you only get a maximum magnification of 0.14x, which is not particularly good. The RF 100-500L gives you a 0.33x magnification figure, for example. Here’s what the 0.14x looks like:

There will probably be situations where you have to move back to be able to focus on your subject, though with an angle of view of 3° 5′ (extremely narrow!), there will be plenty of situations where you need to move back anyway!

The IS system may not give you options for panning or other situations, but it is (fortunately) very effective. It is rated up to four stops, though when combined with the IBIS (In Body Image Stabilization) on my EOS R5 it feels slightly better than that. This photo is nice and crisp with a 1/40th second shutter speed, handheld, which is a little better than four stops of performance.

It is fortunate that the system is effective, because there probably be a lot of moments when you will be dependent on it. F11 is not a very large aperture, and in most lighting situations it is hard to get that shutter speed up. Even on a bright summer evening (right after 5 PM, with the sun still up high), I had to go to ISO 400 to even reach 1/100th shutter speed. That means that I would need to shoot at at least ISO 3200 to get 1/500th second shutter speed (needed to stop most actions). In poorer lighting conditions I could easily be maxing out my ISO to get the shutter speed I would need, so I found that if I had a static subject, I relied on the effective image stabilization to help me keep my ISO down – like this photo of the moon.

Even in this shot, though, I was already at ISO 3200 just to get the 1/40th second shutter speed I used. Effective image stabilization is pretty much a must!

The focus ring and control ring are more standard fare. I found the damping of the focus ring on the 600mm a little more to my liking than the 800mm I tested, as I found the damping was on the light side with the 800mm and the feel not quite as good as the 600mm. Manual focus was smooth (though not fast!), and the control ring felt pretty much like normal.

The control ring has the familiar diamond pattern texture, though the finish is a silver here rather than the traditional black. It helps to give the lens a little variety.

The RF800 actually has a lot of texture variety, and there are two ways to look at that. Some will find it interesting, while others might see a lack of cohesive design elements.

As mentioned in the introduction, there is no aperture iris with blades in this lens (the aperture opening is a fixed size), so there’s no talk of aperture blades or stopping the lens down. You will always see the full opening as shown here.

Canon continues to be very miserly with their non-L series senses (like this one). That means that there is no included lens hood. The ET-101 lens hood is sold separately and will set you back an additional $55, though cheaper third party options are available. It is a large, deep hood and will add significant length to the lens, though I did not have one on hand for my test. Stranger still is that while there is a threading on the bottom of the lens for a tripod foot, there is no tripod foot included. You will be stuck sourcing a third party tripod foot if you want one, as otherwise you are left trying to balance the camera on a tripod with a very long lens out in front of it. I found lining up my test chart quite a pain.

There is no included case, of course, and also as is typical with non-L lenses, there is no weather sealing, either. You’ll want to be careful in adverse conditions.

Canon’s insistence on making things like hoods optional accessories has gotten really tiresome, particularly when I regularly see lenses that cost around $100 and include a lens hood.

My least favorite part of this design is the extended barrel, as it means that you will likely lose valuable shots trying to get the lens in the shooting position and also means that you are limited in where you can hold and support the lens. Like all things, though, you can adjust, and the light weight of the lens does make it a relatively easy lens to bring along, which isn’t something you can say about any other 800mm lens!

Finally, it’s worth noting that Canon does state that the lens is compatible with the Extender RF 1.4x and Extender RF 2x teleconverters, though they also note that autofocus is not guaranteed. The aperture/focal length combination would be 1120mm F16 and 1600mm F22, respectively. I can pretty much guarantee that autofocus at F22 would be non-existent, though you might get some autofocus at F16 with one of the better Canon bodies. The notion of either doesn’t particularly appeal to me, as it would be near impossible to get enough light for autofocus and a reasonable shutter speed in all but the brightest light. Not a practical application, I would say.

Canon RF 800mm F11 STM Autofocus

The RF800 is equipped with a lead screw-type STM (stepping motor) autofocus system. STM is Canon’s lower tier mirrorless focus system, with Nano-USM being the premium focus motor. The small maximum aperture of this lens means that the elements aren’t huge even for such a long focal length, so Canon can get by with the lessor focus motor. STM isn’t as quiet, fast, or smooth as Nano-USM. Focus transitions are fast once they start, though there is a bit of lag before focus starts (probably to allow the focus motor to gain inertia). Focus accuracy was generally high, however, like in this shot of the hardware of a pasture gate.

I also saw excellent focus accuracy when taking pictures of animals, like of this horse:

Tracking faster action takes some acquired skill, as the framing at 800mm is very narrow and you are limited by not having the whole sensor available for focus. Unlike a zoom lens, you cannot acquire the subject and then zoom in further, which means if the animal, athlete, or bird is in motion, you have to train yourself to aim in the right direction to pick up the action. Expect to miss a few key moments until you develop this unique skill of properly framing a moving subject with a very long lens. Once you pick up the subject, however, the advanced focus systems of Canon’s better cameras (R5 and R6 at the moment) ensures that autofocus is very intuitive and does a good job of locking onto the right part of the subject.

Particularly impressive to me was how “sticky” autofocus was when tracking birds in flight. Canon doesn’t have a dedicated “bird mode” for the Eye AF, but I have found their bird eye detect to be every bit as good as Sony’s in the Alpha 1. I fought to keep a seagull in the frame as it moved up and down in flight (and quickly forward, of course), but I was very gratified to see that the eye detect just nailed focus throughout an extended sequence. These deep crops tell the story:

Very impressive.

That means that slower moving targets are easy:

So, we have a good autofocus system, but with a major caveat. In good lighting a professional camera like my EOS R5 can lock on quickly and track well, but in lower lighting conditions no camera is going to thrive when it is limited to F11’s amount of light reaching the sensor. A lens with a larger maximum aperture (say F4) will focus at F4 even if you set the aperture to F11, which means that it has a three stop advantage in the amount of light that the camera has to work with…and each stop of light lets in twice as much light as the stop before it. That makes a huge, huge difference. So you can’t expect to go into a dimly lit auditorium or stadium and get fast autofocus with the RF800, nor is it going to focus as well at dawn or dusk as it will in the middle of the day.

Use the lens to its strengths, however, and it will reward you with well-focused results.

RF800 Optical Performance

As I noted in the introduction, this is an F11 only lens, which makes optical testing pretty simple. There is literally just one “setting” to test: 800mm and F11! The optical formula here is pretty simple, too, with just 11 elements in 8 groups, with Canon touting the use of gapless double-layer diffractive optics in the design. There are some real world factors to bear in mind (more on that in a moment), but overall the image quality punches much higher than the price tag suggests. The MTF chart points to a nicely flat sharpness profile that is very similar to the 600mm F11, though with a little greater drop in contrast as you move away from the center. We can also see that the sharpness and contrast profile is very similar to that of the RF 100-500mm F4.5-7.1L IS with the RF 1.4x extender attached.

This seems pretty consistent with what I saw in my review copy of the lens.

I found minimal amounts of both vignette and distortion. There is a tiny amount of pincushion distortion (I corrected it with a -2 in Lightroom) and about a 1 1/2 stops of vignette in the corners (a +50 correction).

In most applications the automatic lens profiles will take care of what minimal vignette and distortion are present.

This “close” shot of some wildflowers (I was about 6 meters away!) shows no apparent purple or green fringing in the high contrast transition areas despite the high potential for them.

I also next to no lateral chromatic aberrations near the edge of my test chart.

This is obviously a strong plus, as unlike many lenses, you don’t have the option to stop the lens down to reduce either chromatic aberrations or vignette.

I was further impressed by the consistently good sharpness and contrast across the frame. Here’s my test chart:

If we look at greater than a pixel level crops (near 200%) from the center, edge of the frame, and upper left corner.

The final crop (from the upper left) is from a second image I took where I shifted the composition to better include the upper corner. 800mm is the longest focal length I’ve ever tested, and I simply didn’t have enough room in my testing area to properly frame my whole test target. I think we can agree that these results look impressively good across the frame; there is a lot of sharpness on tap. This is a legitimate 800mm lens that produces impressive results…in optimal situations.

But real world results are rarely going to be this sharp. Why? The reality of a 800mm F11 lens. This test is done on a tripod with a ten second countdown and with the tripod on a concrete floor. It is shot at base ISO, so getting the best out of a very good camera sensor. But in the real world I rarely have that level of stability and lack of movement of my subject, and so I need to raise my shutter speed to help to combat motion blur. Raising my shutter speed is almost certainly going to require me to also raise my ISO, so I will rarely get to shoot at base ISO in the real world…even during the day. So, this real world seagull shot is sharp…but not as sharp, because to make sure that I compensated for subject movement, I had to keep my ISO up (ISO 1600 here, which is probably the minimum ISO you can use with real world action and an F11 lens).

In some ways, then, the strong optical performance is tempered somewhat by the reality of the lens itself.

Another aspect of a lens without an aperture is that you can’t create sunstars at all, because the aperture is always circular…there are no blades to create the sunstar shape! You also don’t need to worry about the aperture shape for bokeh when you stop the lens down to smaller apertures…because you can’t! Despite the F11 aperture, however, 800mm is very, very long, so the compression that long focal length creates is enough to completely blur out backgrounds in some situations.

In more moderate situations, you might see a little more jitteriness in some textures, though this still looks fairly neutral to me.

What’s interesting with a lens this long is that just a bit of an angle (down, in this case), allows the ground itself to become a backdrop. The sand on the beach here makes for a portrait photographer’s backdrop:

I can drop down a little lower and now the framing includes some different layers and textures. Having such a tight angle of view means that it is easier to control what’s in the background.

As mentioned earlier, there is no included lens hood, but fortunately the lens proved fairly resistant to flare nonetheless. This shot of the burning ball of fire shows no flare artifacts or veiling.

You can’t “stop down” for landscape shots, and you’ll need BIG distances to make a lens like this effective for landscapes, but it definitely works to compress scenes and bring distant objects into closer relationship with each other.

One final general observation: long telephotos are highly impacted by rising heat waves/shimmer. Different thermal pockets over water, roads, or other surfaces can play havoc with lens sharpness because the heat waves actually distort the light. Remember this if you are shooting in challenging conditions, and know that it isn’t a lens problem…it’s just a physics problem. This image, for example, has a near painterly effect when viewed up close due to the heat shimmer in the backdrop despite being quite sharp on the subject:

All in all, I’m pretty happy with the optical results from the lens, though (as has been the constant thread in this review), you have to use the lens the right way and to its strengths to get the best out of it. Feel free to check out more images and draw your own conclusions by visiting the image gallery here.

Conclusion

It is rare that I refer to a Canon lens as “quirky”, but both the Canon RF 600mm F11 IS STM and Canon RF 800mm F11 IS STM telephoto primes definitely qualify as quirky. Canon’s engineers were willing to overlook a number of typical design conventions and niceties to produce functional telephoto primes with massive reach and good performance at bargain prices. Used in the right conditions, either of these lenses is perfectly capable of producing stunning images.

But those quirks do help define the lens, however. The loosen, extend, and tighten nature of getting the lens ready to shoot will result in some missed shots. The small maximum aperture means that this is a lens designed for very specific (read: bright!) lighting conditions, and so the opportunities to take full advantage of the stellar optics are limited by that physical reality. But the autofocus performance was better than expected, and that meant I was able to get frozen moments like this that will definitely prove a lot of fun for photographers who love birds in flight.

In many ways I am more willing to overlook the challenges of an F11 lens in the RF800 for the simple reason that there is no easy way to get to this kind of focal length. There aren’t zoom lenses that natively reach this focal length, and by the time you add extenders to shorter zooms, you are at this aperture or smaller, and, since you have added more variables into the equation (the teleconverter), there’s more chance of hiccups with autofocus. The fact that the autofocus works quite well here makes me feel like the Canon RF 800mm F11 IS STM can a very useful tool for the right kind of photographer so long as they bring reasonable expectations to the table, and, at about $900 USD, the price of entry is low enough that more photographers can join the fun.

Pros:

  • Easily the cheapest way to get to 800mm
  • Compact and lightweight
  • Effective image stabilizer
  • Excellent sharpness across the frame
  • Good control of aberrations and distortion
  • Low vignette
  • Autofocus is effective
  • Excellent eye AF tracking on good bodies
  • Nice bokeh
  • Good price to performance ratio

Cons:

  • Extremely slow maximum aperture results in limited autofocus area
  • Need to move lens into shooting position means some shots will be missed
  • Lens requires a LOT of light
  • Neither hood nor tripod foot included
  • No weather sealing
  • Autofocus in low light will be poor
  • Minimum focus distance is long and magnification is low

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